He'e Coalition

Special Meeting with Dave Moyer 03/12/2014

March 20, 2014 | Filed Under: HE‘E Meeting Notes, Large Group Notes


HE’E Policy Meeting

March 12, 2014

The Learning Coalition Office, 841 Bishop St. Suite 301

4:00-5:30 pm



1          John    Donlin  Kamehameha Schools

2          Ernestine         Enomoto          Parents for Public Schols Hawaii

3          Christina          Simmons          Parents and Children Together

4          Carl      Ackerman        The Clarence T.C. Ching Pueo Program

5          Gordon            Miyamoto         DOE Familly Suppport

6          Meghan           McCormick       Wheeler Elementary/Learning 1st

7          Bernadette      Howard           CTE University of Hawaii

8          Wendy             Nakasone        US Army

9          Kashmira         Reid     Parents for Public Schols Hawaii

10        Susan  Emley   Parents for Public Schols Hawaii

11        Jean    Grice   DODEA

12        Kanoe Naone  INPEACE

13        Shawn            Kanaiaupuni    Kamehameha Schools

14        RJ        Rodriguez        HSTA

15        Marguarite       Higa     Parents for Public Schols Hawaii

16        Mary    Weir     FACE

17        Kathy   Bryant HE‘E

18        Kay      Fukuda            Waianae Place Based Alliance

19        Susan  Rocco  SPIN

20        Lauren             Baer    The Learning Coalition

21        Matt     Lorin    The Learning Coalition

22        Cheri    Nakamura        HE‘E



4:00-4:15 Welcome


4:15-5:30: HE’E is delighted to have Dave Moyer, Data Fellow of the DOE Office of Strategic Reform. who will discuss his project on the “School Report Card.”


Ernestine Enomoto Notes:

1. Data different from what is currently available on the SSIR. Beyond the student achievement data, I feel that the SSIR offers much of what was requested so I am concerned that if the newly designed Hawaii School Report Card is put into place, it might replace the SSIR. I hope Dave can reassure us that both reports will be available.

2. Among the key questions at the meeting were a) what kinds of data? b) for whose needs, e.g. teacher’s need for individualized student growth data would be quite different than a school’s reporting; c) given that the unit of analysis will be school, and the inevitably comparisons by school will be made, how do you fairly represent a school, both qualitatively and quantitatively, to offer a holistic picture? d) how will the reporting be presented, e.g. published online, distributed widely? e) how might data be disaggregated and for what purpose? f) beyond student stats, what about information about programs (e.g. what specialize as well as standard curriculum), buildings and facilities (e.g. how ranked), resources available, and personnel besides teaching staff (e.g. admin, counseling staff, classified staff) ?

3. Additional questions that I had – a) how will these data be collected in a consistent manner and solicited from schools? b) if these report cards reflect what is currently what the DOE has on file, what about prioritizing (e.g. compliance type data first, and more on programs and resources later perhaps). c) What the rollout/time frame for this project? d) And if a prototype is developed, when might we parents have an opportunity to comment on that prototype?

Kashmira Reid Notes:

– school size, average class size and average student: teacher ratio

– admin and teacher retention or turnover rates (average number of years last 3 principals)

– qualifications /degree level of teaching staff

– full time/part time  nurses office staff? Separate room for sick kids?

What qualifications does present nurse have

– elementary – crossing guards? How many filled and unfilled?

– is there a PTSA or other parent organization ? What is membership size?

– what after school programs/ care are available

– what state, regional or national awards has the school won?

– what classes does it offer? Which languages?

– how many clubs?

– sports ? Co- curricular activities ?

Facilities / built environment

– condition of classroom, cafeteria

– any gym, performance area, lab

– age/last renovation/ upcoming major renovations funded/schedule

– average ambient temperature in classroom? Which bldgs/zoom have a/c?

High school

-How many AP classes Are offered

-Percentage of students enrolled in honors  classes /ap classes

-any national merit scholars?

-% stats on last graduating class – how many went to 4 year, community college, trade school, direct employment, no data

-alumni association?

– how many college admission counselors come into the school?

We recently hosted a middle school night and all 5 tables had bullying and safety on their list of questions a and concern

– how many incidents of a/b incidents

– any data on bullying /cyber bullying?


– technology -number or percent of those using computers / tablets in class

– text books/ebooks – percent of classes where 100 % get issued a book

– # of field trips / excursions per year

– booster clubs ?

Megan McCormick Notes:

•           Parents for Public Schools- Parents want more descriptors in the data report, more QUALITATIVE than quantitative. How to do this?

•           RJ wants to see retention data, although per school that data is extremely vague and not accurate.

•           No reports are harmed in the creation of this report, we are just trying to make this report as useful as possible

•           Also would be helpful to see data for students to drop out


•           SPIN: need more data points for special education population, ELL population

•           “It is important we are telling the stories about schools that need to be told” -Dave Moyer

•           When media looks at the school report cards they are going to pull the first couple of data points, important that these data points be the important indicators about the school

•           Add in the first one to attend college in the family data point

•           Right now, ACT is under readiness and not standardized tests

•           Side note brought up: Accommodations cannot be implemented on the ACT, therefore making the scores disproportionately higher per school, Kathy thinks that a side note needs to be included that would add to the advocacy effort for 504 and Special Education students

•           Another data point that a college faculty member brought up is the data on how many students do senior projects? (May be a better predictor of college success than GPA)

•           How is chronic absenteeism measured?

•           Report card needs to cover the number of highly qualified teachers in a school, is that the most accurate predictor of teacher effectiveness though?


Susan Rocco Notes:

Legally required

Want it to align with useful data

Asking what would make it useful


School Accountability Report


Desired Outcomes

How to find reports


Data is changing:

More data, more tools


Sue:  Parent Report Card – thinking qualitative vs. qualitative

More interested in descriptors than in the data


Dave:  Has to be a data report.  Data is both qualitative and quantitative.  If data is richer in one area than another, may have to judge whether to add this kind of info.


Feds think of it as a numbers report.  We have more flexibility

•           What data are meaningful

•           How best to represent the data

•           How to share it


*Willing to talk to groups


Achievement and growth

•           Math, reading, science

•           Student growth percentiles

•           National test scores (NAEP)


Other:  GPA? ACT?


Military families – a factor for military families coming to HI is wanting a comparison with other schools.


What is happening to SSIR report?  Will that be retained?  Not a replacement effort


Is there a teacher survey that tracks the degree to which a teacher would retain a student? Would give you a sense of the politics.

Dave:  only SQS is given to teachers.


Real concern about retention.  Board of Ed member stated all students not on grade level should be retained.  That makes up 80% of SPED students.  Along with discipline it is one of major factors leading to school failure, drop-outs.  Need to look into retention rates.  Is it political?  Need value base to discourage retention.


Other measures of career readiness?

Absenteeism?  Grades?  Predict earnings.

Suggesting co-curricular activities? AP, dual enrollment


ACT potentially has a point of relevance because it is associated with college.

but cannot give accommodations for SPED, so all sped scores unreported.  No extended time allowed


Quality of student projects


Issue of transition plans.  Means something different in gen ed and reg ed.  Need to be sure students are engaged in their own plans


What are kids doing with communities or communities involved with schools


Attendance is a solid set of data

Always data quality issues


With military absenteeism may be related to dad being home from deployment.


Student surveys:

SQS + Tripod Survey- what students see in the classroom and how they are rating their learning environment.


Retention of staff.  Turnover rate.


Looking for an exceptional school – has opportunities that other schools don’t.  National awards.  # of clubs.  # taking PSAT.  Teacher: student ratio.  Built environment – maintenance backlog.  Do photos.


Readiness: availability of ebooks, foreign languages offered.


Engineers use quality rating – Q1 – Q4 common among builders.  Dave: Facilities doing that right now.  Will have an assessment rating for the state.


Program concern – what kinds of programs are being offered.  Courses and course taking.


What are opportunities at each school.


How many exceptional students?  Brag page.


Concern about high risk group masking performance of sped kids.  Disadvantaged kids outnumber sped by 2-3X   If they improve, looks as if all three groups improving-SPED, ELL, DIS—but often not the case.  No accountability for sped


Issue of “n” size.  Need to come up with way to include students in small “n” groups (SPED and others).  Other states use “n” size of 20 or group two yrs of data together to have enough to report.


Dave:  issue of breaking down data too far.  Gives false attention to some students.


Teacher characteristics

National board certified.  Advance degrees.  Other personnel.

Ethnicity reflecting student characteristics


DOD shows ethnicities of staff

Average class size

Match of teacher training to student needs

Co-teaching, team teaching

Admin characteristics difficult because only one administrator to school


Jean Grice Notes:


School Test Scores

Teacher Survey Results (completed by students)

Career Readiness Measures

Senior Project

National and Regional Awards


SQ Ratings of Buildings

E Books

Teacher Demographics  (Advance Degrees, National Board Certified, ethnicity, etc.)

Counselor to Student Ratio

Co-teaching Options/Programs

Average Class Size

Meaningful Student Group Demographics (High Needs Students per Grade Level, Race/ethnicity, etc.)

School’s Brag Page (significant honors/awards)

AP Courses offered/available

Suspensions & Expulsion Data


Dual Enrollment Options

Number students taking remedial courses in college (only UH data available)

Number of students going to college

Number of students that complete college (graduate)

School Transition Plans

Student Transition Centers




One pager over view (printable)

In depth online data (individuals can access desired detailed data)

Foreign Language Translation

Ability to compare two or three schools on screen (side by side)